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From: Bengt.Ossfeldt@uab.ericsson.se (Bengt Ossfeldt) Sender: Bengt.Ossfeldt@uab.ericsson.se To: JoyceTice@aol.com Hi Joyce, With reference to mails last month, I would appreciate very much if you could post my message. Please find attached two files containing front and back of postcard dated February 7, 1914, Fitchburg, Mass. Matti Ylioja, of Finnish birth, sent his photograph and address to his sister living in Sweden. Matti was my grandmother's brother, or my father's uncle. Could it possibly be the same Matti Ylioja (1887-1926) that is listed in the Lockwood Cemetery (Part Four) page at the Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites? Can anyone give a hint? If you know about Matti Ylioja, or some other person of the Finnish community in the Tri-County area, please wright to me. Bengt Ossfeldt
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Hi, Joyce!
Today four generations later the Ylioja family
tree still exists in Australia!
Best regards from the greatgrandchildren of
Matti Ylioja in Brisbane!
Very truly ,
Arto Ylioja,
son of Johan Ensio Vilho Ylioja of Finland.
Hi Arto,
CC: Joyce,
It is very exciting to hear that you represent the Ylioja family tree "down under" in Brisbane, Australia, as a descendant of Matti Ylioja. Can you verify that your great grandfather lived in USA in the 1920ies? I have found trace of another Matti who lived in Haapavesi, Lapland, Finland in the 17th century, but I don´t have his exact date of birth. At least I think these may be two persons with the same given name, and probably related.
Please note my new e-mail address: Bengt.Ossfeldt@telia.com
Best regards,
Bengt
Thanks for your Contact Bengt! Hälsningar
från Arto i Australien! Well, my Swedish
is a bit elementary, but it's a surprise
to receive feedback on our familytree all
the way to America.... As you mentioned, Bengt,
Matti Ylioja in Haapavesi is one of the early
Great GrandFathers
from the 1700's but the name was
repeated in the 1920's from my memory of
my initial family research in the late 1970's
church archives back
in Finland. Apparently a fire in the
Haapavesi Church Archives in the 1700's caused
all earlier records to be lost.....but the
earliest one from
my memory detailed the Family starting
from a Larger Estate as workers on
the land and by the name Wirtanen, but
who decided to
start using the name of the property/cottage:
Yletoja, (meaning> Upper ditch= Översta Diken?) and thereby
later (in something like 1780)
forming it into Ylioja (Overditch) which was
more becoming and easier to write.
My Father still back in Finland remembers
the story of his
grandfather Matti, who helped out the
local police with an escaping shoplifter (who
was a rather stocky built fellow). As the
policeman
was giving chace to the robber
he noticed Matti on the porch of his
house and passing by shouted to him "Hey,
Matti hold up the rascal....."
To which Matti responded with a
2 foot piece of birch wood and gave the robber
a real hiding on the backside.....and the
poor fellow was ready to be relieved
by being taken away into custody by the policeman.
If we find the original exerpts of
the archives that I obtained in 1979,
we could verify the birthdates etc. of
Matti Ylioja and piece them together, and see
whether they align with Matti Ylioja in USA.
My Father still lives in Finland,
at Nokia (next to Tampere) and is interested
in establishing the links between Ida Oikari and
Matti Ylioja
as well as his own Father, who was of
the travelling sort.....
Best Regards, Bengt, Hälsningar och
de bästa fortsättningar, Arto/Artie.
PS. My new Address: jartoy@optusnet.com.au
Subj: Matti Ylioja continu
Date: 09/01/2003 9:04:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Bengt.Ossfeldt@telia.com (Bengt.Ossfeldt)
Reply-to: Bengt.Ossfeldt@telia.com (Bengt.Ossfeldt)
To: jartoy@optusnet.com.au
CC: JoyceTice@aol.com
Hi Arto,
I remember Grandma telling the background and interpretation of Ylioja,
so we certainly have a connection there. I recently experienced that one
have also spelled "Jyletoja", which happens to give a hit on Altavista
showing a GPS map file with degrees North and East. This lead me to the
Finnish library in Stockholm last week where a detailed map showed a village
or estate named "Jyletojanpera" a few miles west of Pulkilla church. I
visited the vicar's office there two months ago, without knowing how close
I was....
Pulkilla is the parish just north of Haapavesi and I now have the family record of Erik (Erkki) Ylioja 1812-1881. His wife Anna Kaisa gave birth to nine children of which six died before age of 5. Their first boarn was Matts (Matti) 1851-1923 whose family then raised eight children, including Grandma Ida who moved to Sweden and Matti who went to America. The wife/mother was Maria 1858-1947 and last summer I found her grave at Oulainen west of Haapavesi. I think Matts had a taylor shop at the town of Oulainen (urbanisation started!).
Best regards,
Bengt
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